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THE FADE IN INTERVIEW | JACK O’CONNELL

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ifted young actors from the U.K. have been coming to Hollywood since the silent era, but few have captured as much attention, or earned as much praise, as quickly as Jack O’Connell. Anyone who sees Unbroken (or any of his recent films, for that matter) will understand why.
         Based on the bestselling biography by Seabiscuit author Laura Hillenbrand, Unbroken, directed by Angelina Jolie, recounts the true story of Louis Zamperini, a champion runner who competed in the 5,000 meters during the 1936 Olympics, became an Air Force bombardier during World War II, survived a plane crash over the Pacific, and spent 47 days adrift in a life raft, only to endure vicious torture in a Japanese prison camp until the war ended.
         The role of Louis Zamperini would be a feast for any actor, and O’Connell savored every last crumb. Indeed, while the film was still in production, word began to spread in Hollywood that he was delivering a star-making performance — brutal, beaten-down, feral, ferocious, defiant, triumphant. And it was all the more impressive given the physical transformation he underwent. Not a big guy to begin with, he estimates that he lost close to thirty pounds to convey Zamperini’s withered state in the prison camps.
         Although he was largely under the industry’s radar prior to Unbroken, O’Connell was far from a novice. Born in Derby, an industrial hub in England’s East Midlands, he began acting in his early teens and has been working steadily since he was fifteen, when he began scoring parts in U.K. television shows like The Bill, and in films that included the skinhead drama This Is England, directed by an icon of British indie cinema, Shane Meadows. In recent years,          O’Connell’s profile rose significantly when he joined the cast of Skins, the controversial TV drama about a group of hard-partying suburban teens, followed by lead roles in a pair of acclaimed films. In 2014’s Starred Up, he masterfully plays a violent teen locked up in an adult prison, and in ’71, he knocks it out of the park as a soldier abandoned by his unit during the Troubles in Northern Ireland.
O’Connell’s ability to inhabit characters with a delinquent streak so convincingly is rooted in his youth. By his own admission, he was a bit of a handful as a kid, and he is not unfamiliar with the inside of a courtroom. He declines to offer details, but has alluded to a criminal record that nearly jeopardized his ability to obtain travel visas.
         In this and several other respects, O’Connell resembles another English actor who has made no secret of his brushes with the law — Tom Hardy, perhaps best known for his performance as Bane, the masked villain in The Dark Knight Rises. Although they are separated by more than a decade — O’Connell is 24, Hardy 37 — the two countrymen have much in common beyond wayward pasts: protean physicality, charisma that burns through the screen, long resumes of attention-grabbing work in British film and television, they even share the same American agent. And, of course, they both made splashy Hollywood breakthroughs that quickly led to other high-profile offers.
         For O’Connell, who will be seen next in the period drama Tulip Fever, due early next year, the most conspicuous case in point is Money Monster, a drama with echoes of Network and Dog Day Afternoon. Currently scheduled to start production in February, the film has George Clooney and Julia Roberts attached to star, and Jodie Foster slated to direct. Perhaps most impressive — and confirmation of O’Connell’s industry status, post-Unbroken — he did not have to audition for his role as an unstable man who takes the host of a financial TV show hostage on the air.
         Although his rough-and-tumble days are behind him, O’Connell still keeps his guard up. Well aware of his good fortune and the opportunities before him, he is wary of enablers who could lure him into mischief. Besides, with so much work coming his way, he hasn’t got the time.

“I’m not interested in the fame aspect or in being a movie star. I’d just like to be considered a great actor and put together a successful body of work.”
 
A lot of the characters you’ve played, up until this point, have a dark side to them. What is it about the darker side of life that appeals to you? I don’t know. Maybe Unbroken is pivotal enough, hopefully, and I get more range in the sort of offerings coming my way. Up until now, I guess I was just getting what I was given, and trying to do the best with that. Thankfully, Unbroken is a great example of that. One of the great ones, anyway.
Universal marketing decided to go with an image of you from behind holding the plank above your head, in what you’ve described as one of the most difficult days of the shoot. How does it feel to have the most famous back in the world right now? I’m OK with it. It gives me more time to enjoy my anonymity.
This is the biggest press tour you’ve been involved with though. How are you keeping everything in perspective? I’m not interested in the fame aspect or in being a movie star. I’d just like to be considered a great actor and put together a successful body of work. None of this other stuff is important to me.
What’s been the highlight of this experience thus far?
Meeting Zamperini. Definitely.
You met with Zamperini three times and lost almost thirty pounds for the role. What else did you do to prepare during preproduction? I was working on my stamina before the diet took a total toll, shall we say. So I was working out every morning. I was also trying to get a visa.
Were you concerned you weren’t going to get it? Yeah, always, always if you haven’t got a crystal-clear record, there’s always concern. Thankfully, I overcame that, naturally. Then, just before the diet got too unenergetic, shall we say, I was trying to widen my stride physically, so I’d be stretching my legs. I would have my personal trainer stretch them out so I could achieve [that], because Louie Zamperini’s hips would dislocate, so that would enable him a couple maybe millimeters/centimeters on each side. Unfair, really, when you think about it.
You’re still carrying around an injury from the shoot, right? I’ve recovered from it now. We wrapped in February. There was one concern: My right ankle.
How did that happen? I just think the repetition. I had to fully condition myself before, and then afterwards, so I probably shouldn’t have stopped training after the shoot. I should have probably warmed down, as it were. We were running on sand a lot. I got a nerve trapped in there as well. That’s all right, ’cause there were lots and lots of massages. Slightly painful massages, but I liked ’em.
What part of Zamperini’s life did you relate to most? I guess how he related to his family. It comes across in the book, and it’s a quality of his that we share. Maybe there’s some parallels in how we both used to deal with boredom as kids. I wasn’t as cunning as Louie. I wasn’t smart enough to paint a milk bottle [to hide my liquor].
Did you watch dailies while you were shooting? No.
Why not? I don’t know. This time, I was trying to adopt someone who wasn’t me entirely. In order to do that, I fancy there’s still going to be an essence of me there with Louie, but I was trying really to believe in something that was ultra-era Louie Zamperini to the best of my ability, so to watch it and review it, it would throw me. But in terms of playbacks, at the time, every now and then they’d be useful.
Miyavi, who plays Watanabe, the sadistic Japanese prison guard known as “The Bird,” has admitted to having a bit of trouble with some of the torture scenes. As a fellow actor, how did you help him through it? I wasn’t able to. They kept us apart the entire shoot, as we play enemies in the film. [In real life], we know each other and are friendly. But what I would do is, when he completed a difficult take, I would give him a pat on the arm just to say, “Good job.”
You’ve now had three amazing performances in a row — Starred Up, ’71 and Unbroken. How much pressure are you under to keep this momentum going? There’s a lot of emphasis on my next role. That’s where I’ve got to keep my focus on, you know? Just break it down role by role, and then it’s one decision at a time. So we’ll just use the same kind of attitude, but you are right, there’s definitely more emphasis on it.
How has Unbroken changed the type of projects you’re being offered now — or has it? As soon as I wrapped on Unbroken, a different caliber of roles started coming through, this time around. But it would have been more of a pay rise than a forward maneuver in terms of artistic reasons anyway. So that’s the kind of decision I want to be careful of, really.
How do you go about determining what the right roles are? That’s hugely based on content in terms of script — what the character will allow for, and hopefully, what the partnership with the director will allow for. These are the kinds of things that we can foresee and make early estimates on. You can never be 100 percent. There’s always a gambling nature to it, so… But yeah, I’m fairly certain that I’m moving forward with Jodie Foster on Money Monster, alongside George Clooney, for example, it’s perhaps a good indication. Early indications are good, basically. See, that’s the kind of basis we try to go off, but it’s job-dependent, you know? Hopefully, I’ll be able to get involved in low-budget British filmmaking some time soon.
So that’s still the plan? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it’s all made a lot easier because of these opportunities I’m experiencing, so to speak.
But the role you’re portraying in Money Monster is another deranged character. Why take this particular film now, when you’re trying not to be typecast? I believe in his motives and the distinction that he’s present-day and he’s a New Yorker. So there are challenges with the role that I willwelcome. It’s perhaps not the biggest departure, you’re right, but I’ve only just arrived with Unbroken, and it seems to make sense. I have to work with what is available, too. I’m looking forward to next year, and the year as a whole should help in defining me some more.
The opportunity to work with Jodie Foster, George Clooney and Julia Roberts is not a bad reason to say “yes.” Oh, yeah, and the script’s magnificent. It’s awesome writing. I don’t know the screenwriters’ work prior to it, but I feel really grateful for it being brought to my attention, and these will help the decision-making process along, creatively. Alan DiFiore and Jim Kouf [are the writers]. I should be keeping an eye out for their work.

“Hopefully, I’ll be able to get involved in low-budget British filmmaking some time soon…It’s all made a lot easier because of these opportunities I’m experiencing.”

 
How much of your representatives’ advice do you weigh when considering a project? I rely on them quite a bit. I’m still learning the business side of things.
What’s been the most surprising aspect of the business to you thus far? I guess I didn’t understand the relationships fully between sponsors, advertisers, marketing, etc., and the influences they have. I feel better for knowing, basically. It all has to come together somehow.
According to online reports, you’re starring in Terry Gilliam’s Don Quixote. Are you aware of the star-crossed history? If so, are you worried? This is information that was released by a production company affiliated with Terry. There’s literally been no confirmation on my side, and that’s so far in the future that I can’t talk definitely about it, so I’m afraid that’s hearsay for now.
Is there a particular director you hope to work with one day? Steve McQueen. And I’d like to go back and work with some of the directors I worked with when I was younger, like Shane Meadows, just to see what we could do together now that I have a little more experience.
Any desire to put a producer hat on? Start your own company in the future? Definitely, in the future. Yeah, yeah. It wouldn’t be practical right now. I still have to study my craft and establish myself as an actor with a range — or capable of a range, anyway. So these are my priorities first. I’m looking forward to going back into the theater. It’s exciting, you know?
Jolie was able to bring Zamperini’s true story to light. Is there a specific chapter in history you’d like to bring to the big screen? Oh, yeah. Period pieces tend to get very expensive, but if I was to be a bit adventurous about it now, then yes, certainly. I find a lot of interest within history on the whole, so I feel very fortunate that I may get to do that.
Anything specific come to mind? A history so vast we’d be here for ages, but initially, I’d always been keen to study Ireland’s history.
Because you’re half Irish? Yeah.
Do you feel more Irish than British? Yeah, in a way. That comes from my dad. But it wouldn’t be fair to say I’m Irish when I was born in Britain in the ’90s.
You’re an avid fan of the Derby County Rams soccer team. Correct.
Let’s say you’re driving along and you see a fan of one of your rival teams, Nottingham Forest, broken down by the side of the road. What do you do? Is it a busy road? [Laughs] If it’s a busy road, I drive on.
And if it’s not a busy road? I might start feeling guilty a little further down the road and have to turn back. Say it was somewhere barren, where you wouldn’t expect to see a Forest fan.

“As soon as I wrapped on Unbroken, a different caliber of roles started coming through, this time around. But it would have been more of a pay rise than a forward maneuver in terms of artistic reasons anyway. So that’s the kind of decision I want to be careful of, really.”
 
You were recently named as Derby County’s Charity Ambassador for the Rams charity partnership with MacMillan Cancer Support. What does that entail? I try and do my best bit in terms of fundraising, so things like Twitter, and then, when I’m at football games, I’m there to represent the charity, and I’ve done features online with the club, too. In terms of futuristically, I’ll be at events, and if there’s an article of mine along the way, which might go for some money in an auction environment, then I’m always obliged to keep my focus charity-based with that sort of stuff. I feel very privileged that I get to do it, actually. MacMillan is a charity that I have become familiar with for personal reasons over the years.
You’ve said Brad Pitt gave you moral support about your situation at home right after you got the part in Unbroken. What situation were you dealing with prior to the start of production? My father had died [of cancer], and [Brad] just wanted me to know he was there, if I needed someone to talk to.
Not easy. No.
Some say that our spirit is still alive, that only our body ceases to exist when we die. Yes, I’ve heard that before. And just the other day, I could have sworn he was around. My mom, sister and I have this thing where if we see a white feather — and it could be from a pigeon’s ass — but if we see a white feather, we take it as a sign. It’s comforting.
You bought your mom a house recently. How did that come about? I didn’t like where she was living. It’d become dangerous for her just to walk down the street. So I found a house for her in a better part of [Derby] close to my nanna.
Will you take a vacation next? If I’m lucky enough, yeah. It’s Christmas, which I’m excited about. It’s at home, and I’m spending it with my nanna and my mom in London. So I’m very excited by that. Just dossing [i.e., sleeping] and putting on loads of weight. Then it’ll be time to get back on it. I’m really keen to get back on set. I’ve been promoting this movie for a few months. I’m feeling a little bit jaded. This period is cool, too. I shouldn’t complain too much. I’m mainly watching films for references to prepare for my next character.
Well you’ve shown the entire industry and audiences alike that you have what it takes to play with the best of them. But from your point of view, are there obstacles going forward? If so, what are they? I’m of the belief that I have a range within me as an actor, in terms of the possibilities of what kind of characters that I can be taken seriously for. That might differ in my imagination compared to people in charge, if you see what I mean. So I’ve really got to earn that imagination from my future employers. And that’s the intention, you know, and there’s plenty I can do to ensure that that’s the case because it’s always been my ambition.
When we last spoke, you said you were concerned about falling back into old patterns – nightclubbing, partying… It’s all been very considered before now. Every move we’ve made essentially. I’ve got representatives here giving me enough time of day to feel like we explore every potential avenue, you know? Sorry, one second. [Just then, there’s a knock at his hotel door. It’s a hotel staffer there to restock his mini-bar. “See. Untouched,” he says.] That was in keeping with what I was saying, as well. I have to keep in mind, too; I’m still working. There’s a way of keeping track on me if they wanted to. It’s my responsibility to make that unnecessary. After this, I’ll be going to a post-screening Q & A. Today’s Saturday, and I don’t remember my last day off. So if I was to be a plonker, irresponsible, it’s just not compatible with my life now. At the risk of sounding very boring, I don’t really miss it either.

stylist Lee Harris/The Wall Group groomer Mira Chai Hyde for Oribe & Leonor Greyl
cover: suit: Z Zenga tie: Ermegildo Zenga shirt: Z Zenga pocket square: J. Crew
opener: suit: Z Zenga tie: Ermegildo Zenga shirt: Z Zenga pocket square: J. Crew
close up: sweater: Salvatore Ferragamo
hands in pockets: tweed suit: J. Crew shirt & tie: J. Crew
in the tub: henley shirt: Double RL jeans: Self Edge boots: Shoto
laundromat: leather & corduroy jacket: Dolce and Gabbana vest: Brunello Cucinelli shirt: Brunello Cucinelli pants: Brunello Cucinelli shoes: Brunello Cucinelli

 

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